Ashim Matthan: Hi everyone. Welcome to the RhinoMight Podcast. My name is Ashim. This is Dr. Kanishka. A few videos ago, we spoke about Proviron being a very poor Aromatase Inhibitor, and this video is going to be about how to use Proviron correctly. Proviron is classified as a DHT derivative. It is one of two legally available DHT derivatives. The other one being Stanozolol, which is Winstrol. Both of these are in pill format and oral, so you can consume them orally. And they are both fantastic compounds. This discussion in this video is going to be about Proviron and which is also called Mesterolone, and how do you use Proviron correctly?
Dr. Kanishka Jain: So when do you use Proviron? Proviron is an amazing sidekick to any Testosterone or any Anabolic cycle which is being run.
Ashim Matthan: What it does is that it goes into your… so we have.. all of us have an SHBG, which is Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, and SHBG holds on to Testosterone. It is also a reserve of Testosterone. Now the thing is that if it is within healthy parameters, that’s fine and that’s okay. The problem is that when you are on TRT after a period of time for some people your SHBG value just keeps increasing and increasing and increasing, and your SHBG is holding on to more and more Testosterone and not allowing it to be free. So what this means is that it’s not… you are not getting the full benefits of TRT, of your Testosterone cycle. So you want to take Proviron at that time because it’s going to crash your SHBG. It’s going to force your SHBG to realize Testosterone in the form of free Testosterone, and that free Testosterone is going to have benefits, one which is cosmetic, two all the health benefits of what Testosterone brings as being a great healer; and three, it’s going to increase your sex life.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: In addition, how do you notice that your SHBG is high? One is by Blood Test that is the most accurate form of doing it. And the second that you can do is that let’s say that 200 mg of Testosterone was giving you very good results and suddenly that dose stops working for you. You know that the 200 mg in the past had given you very good results and the dose has stopped working. It means that SHBG has SHBG has increased.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah, most likely.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Most likely. That is the scenario. So running Proviron at that time would help.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly and you can do either a Blood Test of SHBG or you can do a Blood Test of free Testosterone. They are they are two sides of the same coin, and they both cost almost the same. So just doing one of the two is enough to give you a good understanding of what the scenerio is like.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yes. So what are the side-effects of Proviron?
Ashim Matthan: When you have a lot of Proviron and you… of course, this is dose dependent and it’s also dependent on individual to individual. These are all guidelines. At the end of the day, every single patient, every single person that is on TRT is an independent case. So with all those caveats in that, those disclaimers set aside, what we would say is that you are going to have the same basic problems that have… that would happen with any DHT, which is hair fall and acne. So you want to always be careful about this. If your dose hits the threshold limit relative to you, you are going to start experiencing acne and hair fall. The next thing which is the thing that is scary and which I want you to talk about especially because you are a doctor, so issue you should definitely talk about this is prostate issues. When you have a lot of Proviron, you are going to have prostate swelling. And a lot of people gets scared with prostate swelling and prostate cancer, and I want just to clear this up. Like how it should be.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: So prostate swelling is not the same as prostate cancer. Prostate swelling can lead to prostate cancer when not addressed. So if prostate swelling is there, you will notice that your urine stream becomes very, very small. You will have to put more force to evacuate your bladder, and you will have to keep on going to the urine to pass urine very frequently. So these are the two signs that you have to be aware of when running Proviron or any DHT for the matter of fact.
Ashim Matthan: So these are the clinical signs. This is how you know yourself. You have to always self-monitor. Whenever you are taking any of these chemicals, you got to be like hyper aware of yourself. You cannot be laid back and complacent. Even if you are taking something as small as Testosterone even with bioidentical every always pitch about it. That doesn’t mean that you take it like lying down. You are just unaware of things. You should be aware, and this is one of the things that you should know especially if you’ve got to add chemicals to Testosterone. So Proviron is an added chemical. You should know the side effects and you should know what to look out for. You are not going to go running for a Blood Test every single time. It costs a lot of money.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: In addition, if you get balding or you get acne or you get any of these symptoms with just Testosterone alone, then Proviron is not a option for you.
Ashim Matthan: It’s not a good option, and also if ever you get a prostate enlargement and you get prostate swelling or you get your acne or you get hair fall, if any of these side effects are happening, just stop. Stop your dose, gradually lower it, like skip a couple of doses and then slowly, slowly taper it off. And in doing that if you because you are hyper aware and you doing it at the right and you are making the change quickly, all of this will reverse itself. You don’t have to do anything on top of this to reverse this. In short.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yeah. As long as you are aware of it and you allow it to be… allow these problems to persist for a long period of time, you will not get the side effects which are going to be permanent.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly. And this, so there are two things that I want to discuss. One is the alternatives to Proviron. If you… or rather why do we use Proviron when there are other alternatives? Like another great alternative is Masteron and Masteron is fantastic because it has lot more cosmetic effects. It’s going to give you that lean hardness that you want in your muscles. And it’s also, I mean, if you have Masteron then very few people will go.. pull-off a Proviron. The thing is that Masteron is not readily available. I don’t think any pharmacy keeps it. I don’t think any doctors also provide a prescription for it. With that… but Masteron is a fantastic chemical as well. The only drawback is that it is an injectable. And for anybody who is on TRT who is doing frequent dosing, micro-dosing of TRT, they don’t want to become a pin cushion where they take multiple shots, they take bigger and bigger injections. You want to keep things simple. So Masteron is not an alternative. That’s why people don’t go for that. Yeah.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: But Masteron is a stronger Anabolic than Proviron.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly. So if you could… so if you have to choose like between running Proviron, let’s say that we take Test or the equations. There is not Test. There is no base, nothing. If you are going to take either of these two chemicals just by itself which one is going to be better for you.. like for anyone?
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Proviron is a weak Anabolic. It is not going to cause any cosmetic changes on its own, while Masteron on its own will cause cosmetic changes where it can literally dry you out and give you that lean, hard look.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly. And as far as triggering that sex drive, Masteron is much better.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yeah. Masteron goes and works on the lizard brain as such and causes increased sex drive.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly. So one of the thing that.. and we will save this for another video but one of the things that happens when you take, and this is little bit off-topic, one of the things that happens is when you take like all the Nandrolone compounds that have neuro… Degenerative issues.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yeah.
Ashim Matthan: They have Neurodegenerative issues and they also affect your hormone, they are mood enhancers and also they do affect your mood. So whenever you take any of those, it’s always a risk of chemical castration and whenever that happens you see lot of people who takes cycles of Test-Tren-Mast. So Mast is added in to make sure that whatever chemical castration that might take place…
Dr. Kanishka Jain: You get Tren Dick. Yeah.
Ashim Matthan: Exactly. So whatever chemical imbalance of chemical castration that might happen with Tren, Masteron is going to reverse it. So Masteron is super powerful.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: In that sense.
Ashim Matthan: In that sense. And this leads us to the final topic that I wanted to… I wanted us to talk in this video, and that is dosages of Proviron. Now keep in mind, before Kanishka gets into this, just keep in mind that everybody is independent. We said that again. So all those caveats apply especially to dosages. Only thing I would want to say is that you don’t want to exceed 100 mg a day ever because 100 mg seems to be the general threshold at which point all of these side effects come in, in a very aggressive manner and nobody should have to deal with that. So it’s not safe. You are not playing it safe anymore. Over 100 mg means you are floating with danger.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: And in addition to that we wouldn’t want to run Proviron for more than five to six months at a time.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: We don’t do that. It is based on how your body responds to it. So Proviron comes as 25 mg tablets. You would want to start at the most conservative dose, which we feel is half a tablet morning and half a tablet at night. That equals to 25 mg a day or one tablet in a day. And you can slowly, slowly scale it up to one tablet in the morning, half a tablet at night or one morning, one tablet in the morning, one tablet at night, and then slowly, slowly gradually taper it up to 100 mg where you are taking two tablets in the morning, two tablets at night. But we would not exceed anything above that.
Ashim Matthan: How do I know when I should increase the dose? Like how do I know that this 12.5, 12.5 isn’t enough?
Dr. Kanishka Jain: So you know that on the same Testosterone dosing that what effects you are getting. You start feeling the same effects, plus your sex rate picks up. So one of the things that Proviron does do is it improves Libido. A lot of people on TRT when they have high SHBG suffered from low Libido because of the free Testosterone being low.
Ashim Matthan: Right. So it’s going to be qualitative. I have to be self-aware. I mean, like people have to be self-aware when they take this chemical and then they have to be able to gauge when they have, our patients have us, but in general, whenever someone is taking Proviron and you want to self-administer it, then you got to be that much more hyper aware of how to… of all these other things going on and gauge accordingly, right? –
Yes.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. I want to bring out one other thing and that is that we always want to start really, really small with whatever it is that you are doing. Whichever chemical that you are going to add, this is like a… this is not in just related to Proviron in general, we want to start it like a small dose, and you want to keep working upwards. So say even if it’s, for example, and this is way off-topic, but I just feel it’s important that we should mention this. If it’s Winstrol, you want to start Winstrol also at like say 25 mg, three times a week, injectable Winstrol, for example. You want to take 25 mg three times a week, which is sometimes laughable. Lot of people would find this extremely conservative and they’d be like this is not going to do anything for me. And maybe that’s true. Maybe that’s true. For some people, it’s not going to do anything. But you want to start at 25 three times a week and make it like say 50 three times a week, then 75 three times a week, and go up to a point where you know that your body is showing all the side effects that are there. So you should know the side effects of whatever chemical that you are taking. And the second, You start feeling it. That means that your are now flirting with danger. This is your threshold limit for your body and maybe start to cut back down or not, stay at this dose, beyond a certain point.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yeah. Because you are allowing your body to understand the chemical, and after understanding the dose that works for you, when you repeat this cycle, you don’t need to go the conservative route again. You can start at that dose.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah. So now we have kind of like getting into next steroid cycle theory. But since we are talking about DHTs and Winstrol, see I take, Am I accurate in making this statement that if I take Winstrol, and I slowly, slowly taper it upwards and I get to say whatever amount is good for me, and now I know that side effects are going to start taking place, if say at this dose I say I’m going to start cutting it back because, you know side effects are there, at that stage I finished my cycle. Let’s say it’s a six weeks cycle. I finished it. It’s put back and I am still on TRT because we love Blasting and Cruising. We don’t like all these cycles. So I’m still on Testosterone. Will that Testosterone heal all of my receptors because, you know, like DHT is down regulate. Yeah. If 100 mg work now, I will need more later on down the line. But if I’m off it for enough time and if I am taking Testosterone, will Testosterone heal this?
Dr. Kanishka Jain: So by healing what you mean is that do they refresh the DHT receptors? So Testosterone what it does is it changes the gene expression to make more androgen receptors. So when there are more androgen receptors, which respond to DHTs like Winstrol, let’s say that you scale back on the Winstrol. There is something which is not going to act on those receptors. It will act with the Testosterone. So it will be more susceptible to Winstrol the next time that you take it. So it will be ready for the same dosage again. Maybe you may not need to take the same higher dose, for the same effects.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. And similarly since I want to circle back to Proviron. We talked about how we don’t allow any of our patients ever exceed five to six months, should they medically require Proviron, and we administer it, we recommend it and prescribe it. And then they take it for whatever five to six months, and then we stop. Normally, why is it that we stop? So this is why we stop for just a few months, and then we observe, and they are also supposed to observe with, you know, clinical means that we just discussed of whether their SHBG is again rising, whether they are going through that problem again with SHBG holding on to Test. And if that is happening, you repeat the process again. So you could very well be like say, for example, 5 months ON, 2-3 months OFF, 5 months ON, 2-3 months OFF. You could keep going up and down on this.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yeah. You could do that. You could do it like in a wave pattern where you are on Proviron for a certain amount of time. Then you take it off. Also what you can do is you can modulate it with diet. So if you are on diet, which are going to cause high SHBG like a Keto diet, you can do it with Proviron along with it and get maximum results from your diet.
Ashim Matthan: Right. Because Keto will cause your SHBG to rise and Proviron is counter acting on that, breaking it down. So getting the benefits of Keto plus you are getting the benefits of Proviron freeing up Testosterone and therefore you are getting the best bang for your buck.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: And you also have a Test running at the same time.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Exactly.
Ashim Matthan: So it is the best combination that you could run should you encounter high SHBG while you are running Testosterone on TRT dosages. -Right? –
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Correct.
Ashim Matthan: So I think we summarized this well. If you guys have any questions, please feel free to ask us. Thank you very much for watching this video.
Dr. Kanishka Jain: Bye.
Ashim Matthan: Bye bye.
Ashim Matthan: Hi everyone. Welcome to the RhinoMight podcast. My name is Ashim, this is Dr. Kanishka.
Kanishka Jain: Today’s question is that if you’re running a Test blast, can you use Proviron as an Aromatase Inhibitor along with it?
Ashim Matthan: Right. So the gentleman in question is from Reddit. And he is currently cruising on TRT so he’s on Test. And he’s going to be transitioning from TRT levels of Test to a blast. And he has stockpile Proviron. So, he wants to know if you can use that as an AI. And before we get into this, we should probably consider various aspects of this question. So we’ll go about in a structured manner. We’ll talk about what a Test blast is. We’ll talk about what AI’s are, we’ll talk about DHTs and then we’ll get to the actual question of whether the Proviron is a good AI.
Kanishka Jain: Yes, so before that we have to first start with what is a Test blast. A Test blast is any dose of Testosterone which exceeds your weekly TRT dose. So, usually your TRT dose ranges from anywhere between 100 milligrams a week, to 300 milligrams a week. So, anything in excess of that is called as a Test blast.
Ashim Matthan: Right, and then you can go up to whatever exorbitant levels that bodybuilders push this to.
Kanishka Jain: Yeah.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. So, that leads us to topic number two, which is — What is an AI?
Kanishka Jain: What is an Aromatase Inhibitor?
Ashim Matthan: Right. So Aromatase is the enzyme in the body that converts excess Testosterone to Estrogen. The excess Testosterone is going to be different from person to person. It’s also going to be different for you within your lifespan in the sense that on a day to day basis. For example, there are lots of triggers which can convert Testosterone to Estrogen. You’ve got.. if say for example, you fall sick and you take a certain antibiotic. That could be the trigger. So you’re taking other chemicals on top of Testosterone those could also be the trigger. So there are various things that come with it. It’s just that this is your threshold limit and beyond that whenever your body registers or there is too much Testosterone, I better convert it to Estrogen. And then it will get converted to Estrogen. That’s what Aromatase does as an enzyme.
Kanishka Jain: Yes. So why do people run Aromatase Inhibitors on a cycle?
Ashim Matthan: Because the most problematic thing that any AI will do, there are lots of side-effects that AI… of high Estrogen, some of them are like cosmetic, like people get lot of flushing of the skin, stuff like that, which most people would not care about. But the thing that you will care about, that most of us should as men care about is that it can go into your chest, into your breast tissue and make it into Gynecomastia.
Kanishka Jain: Yes. Also, in addition to that, it can cause bloating and it can take away from the lean muscular look that you’re aiming for when you’re running a Test blast.
Ashim Matthan: Right, exactly. Yes. So the reason why people would want an AI on hand is more so because of the gyno as priority number one, the most dangerous thing that they would put it down to.
Kanishka Jain: And so, what is DHTs and what is its role with Estrogen?
Ashim Matthan: So, DHTs are your end product of Testosterone. In the life-cycle of Testosterone in your body the finished product would be DHTs and so firstly Proviron is a very weak DHT, it’s a poor DHT. And what DHTs do, is that they also similar to Estrogen just roam around your body. It’s a product of your free Testosterone.
Kanishka Jain: Yeah. So Dihydrotestosterone or DHTs are like Proviron, Masteron, which is Drostanolone. And other compounds, which are used in a lean gaining cycle or a lean cutting cycle where they work to displace Estrogen from your system and give you the Androgenic manly look that you’re looking for and the lean cut look.
Ashim Matthan: Right. So, the reason why you would want to take a DHT instead of an AI, so we firstly, let’s go back a little bit. We don’t like AIs.
Kanishka Jain: Yes, we don’t like AIs.
Ashim Matthan: We don’t like AIs, there were lot of side-effects and it’s not a good long-term to take the AIs. If you must take an AI, it should be done short-term. We’ll get into that at the end. So you don’t want to take an AI. So you take a DHT because the same receptors that Estrogen sits on is the same receptor where a DHT can kick Estrogen out of and occupy that space, right?
Kanishka Jain: Yeah. Because in addition to that, because DHTs are most sensitive for those receptors, the androgenic receptors. Those are the ones which are DHT on them when they are not, when the DHT is not there, it will have an Estrogen market.
Ashim Matthan: Correct. So it’s not possible for each Estrogen to kick a DHT out of their receptor, but it’s possible for a DHT to kick an Estrogen out.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: So that’s why they say that if you have gyno, and if you want to know whether the Masteron that you have on hand is good quality, high quality Masteron, you can blast Masteron and Masteron should reverse the gyno on its own, you should not need any AI. That’s the thing, that’s why he wants Proviron because in the list of DHT analogs Proviron is one of them.
Kanishka Jain: Yes, correct.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. So if you have an AI, so what, how would we do this? Like, because… let’s go back to this question. The fundamental root cause of this problem because he doesn’t want high Estrogen levels, which he feels are going to happen when he takes a high amount of Test. So he wants to keep Proviron on hand as an AI. So short and simple answer is Proviron a good AI?
Kanishka Jain: No. So, in our experience, Proviron is not a good AI. It is a weak DHT. Thus it becomes a weak AI. It cannot displace Estrogen and prevent gyno. It can be an add-on to TRT for some people when they’re running small doses of TRT and they want a sudden look.. like they want a cut lean look. You can run Proviron for a short period of time, but you we wouldn’t suggest that.
Ashim Matthan: So, just to get certain things clear, DHTs are also bioidentical hormones.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: And Proviron falls into that category, but it’s a weak synthetic version of that Masteron or any of the others will be cycling more powerful, better, more closer to the original real deal. So if you want to have like a flow chart of how you go about selecting something like this first you want to know is do you value your hair. Obviously you and I know don’t but say someone does value their hair then they’re going to say that they’re not, then they will not want Masteron or even Proviron because it can trigger hair loss, right.
Kanishka Jain: Yes. So, if you are at risk of it, that is if your dad, your brother or anybody in your family or if you have any experience of running these compounds before, and they’ve caused hair loss, then definitely Masteron is not the answer for you.
Ashim Matthan: Right. Even if you have, normally we do blood tests, right? The DHT test that we do, And if the values are very high, close to 900. Then we say that, okay, you’re at risk of it. Yes. You probably should stay away from these things. So if your career or whatever if you care about your hair fall, don’t get into these DHTs, it’s a risk that you’re taking. In order for them to take care of… to be an AI, you can take the DHTs and you have to take a whole bunch of precautionary measures to run them and protect your hair from falling. But as an AI, it’s not the first thing that we want to use them in that case, because these are the values that we have. So if you care about hair fall, don’t get into this. If you don’t care about hair fall then DHT, a good strong DHT is a good AI.
Kanishka Jain: Yeah. So if you don’t care hair fall or if you are not at risk of having any hair fall then run these compounds, then you can try a compound for some time, like a Masteron or something and see that are you getting hair fall on it. If you’re getting hair fall on it, so hair fall is more than 100 hair follicles a day, yeah so a fall of more than 100 hair follicles a day because that is our turnover of hair. So, if you’re exceeding that amount, you should be very wary of using Masteron if you value your hair.
Ashim Matthan: So, let’s look here, let’s say that someone who had, so whenever you run any of these chemical compounds, you should have a doctor who is monitoring you, it’s good for… it’s just safety. In India, it’s the legal way of doing it. If you want to run steroids, anabolic steroids, you should have a doctor who is going to monitor you. So, say we have a patient, say we have a case, a patient, who wants to increase his Test usage. How would we go about it? How would we systematically do it in a safe manner? The emphasis of course would be safety first.
Kanishka Jain: So, lets say that if somebody came like that and he’s done a cruise right now, you would not straight away taper the dose upto 500. That is a shock on the body. You slowly, slowly taper up, you keep your doses very, very frequent — you don’t give big, big surges of Testosterone. You use a slow picking esther like Enanthate or Cypionate. And week to week you can start at 200 then go up to 250 then 300, 350. And as soon as you start experiencing effects of Estrogen or high Estrogen, you know, that is the time that you should have an AI on hand to run it.
Ashim Matthan: Right. So you would keep let’s say Armotraz or Arimidex or Aromasin you keep some of these things on hand, whichever agrees with you because everybody is different. You have to know which one works for you which one doesn’t. We like Aromasin because it peaks in an hour, right? So you know that as soon as you take it, whether or not you should start feeling better. So it’s one of those compounds Exemestane.
Kanishka Jain: Exemestane.
Ashim Matthan: Is just a chemical term.
Kanishka Jain: Yeah. So, we have AIs and we have weak AIs which are SERMS, which go and target only the breast tissue. We should have both on hand. So something like Tamoxifen or a Nolvadex can also work as an AI to prevent just gyno. But the other effects are not going to be reversed of high Estrogen. So what are the other effects of high Estrogen that a gyno notices when they are doing AI?
Ashim Matthan: You’ll get bloating. Yes. A lot of bloating, water retention, you get flushing of the skin. Yes. Right? And Estrogen levels jumping all over the place can also cause like a fluctuation in your sex drive, in your libido.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: And in your paranoia.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: And irritability.
Kanishka Jain: So, let’s say that you’re at risk of dying. Let’s say that you’re running 300 milligram of Testosterone, you’re not even tapered up to 500. The first time that you may see is itchy burning nipples.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah.
Kanishka Jain: As soon as you notice that and that means that even when a t-shirt touches it, you will just scream in pain. That is how much sensitivity it induces. Because Estrogen is not what our body likes, a man’s body does not want Estrogen.
Ashim Matthan: Beyond the point.
Kanishka Jain: Beyond the point. It’s very good, it’s anabolic, it’s very good for us.
Kanishka Jain: It has Nootropic effects in the normal range.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah. And if you have Estrogen in good ranges, it should have all the benefits of Estrogen, none of the bad side effects… we want that. We don’t want it to beyond, in too much of an excess and that will cause all of these bad reactions to start happening. But the second you notice that oh yeah, I’m getting that my nipple is a little sensitive, don’t do it. Start your AI post immediately.
Kanishka Jain: Yes. So let’s say that you are at 500 milligrams a week, and you had no gyno…
Ashim Matthan: No.. I’m going to interrupt you, sorry. Can you scale back, let’s say that we’re at 300, I’m at 300, and I started noticing that okay, my nipple is a little sensitive, so what should I do.. what’s the first thing that I do?
Kanishka Jain: So, the first thing is that, let’s say that you have Letrozole on hand, Letrozole is one of the most, cheapest AIs available out there. You take one tablet of it, it peaks in the blood within 4 to 6 hours.
Ashim Matthan: Okay.
Kanishka Jain: Let’s say that you took it in the night the next day morning your gyno should be better.
Ashim Matthan: But do I take my shot?
Kanishka Jain: Yeah.
Ashim Matthan: So, what we normally do is whether you’re on TRT or whether you’re blasting or whatever you’re doing, we like very, very frequent injections as frequent as possible. So let’s just say that you are one of those people who is able to handle seven days a week. So you have seven injections a week. So everything is going to be in multiples of seven. So your TRT dose will not be 200. It’ll be like 210. Then if your blast also might not be 500, it might be 490. So, it’s going to be stuff like that. You’ve got to like, take this, you’ve to like do these small calculations, but this is the intricacies of it. So if you say I’m supposed to take an injection today, I felt that gyno yesterday, I was at 300 and I took my AI, I took Letroz at night. And this morning I wake up and I still feel that there is a little bit of gyno, it’s improved but it’s still there. So, what am I supposed to do?
Kanishka Jain: So let’s say that you took a Letrozole in the night.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah.
Kanishka Jain: Your gyno has gone away. You will take your shot the next day. Letrozole lasts in your system for three days.
Ashim Matthan: But what if it’s not gone? What if it’s still there?
Kanishka Jain: So, if it’s still there, I will repeat the dose of Letrozole the next day.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. And what about the Test?
Kanishka Jain: And the Testosterone shot as well
Ashim Matthan: Okay.
Kanishka Jain: The next shot will be taken with this thing. Because the effect of Letrozole is best when there is Testosterone running in the system so that it can start countering the Estrogen.
Ashim Matthan: Also, you don’t want to stop the Test suddenly because it will be a drop and there is no need to subject it to these shocks.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: You wanted the levels to be as stable as possible. Right?
Kanishka Jain: Yeah. So option one would be that you take your Test shots every day and you take the Letrozole. Letrozole is a very strong AI, it is going to reverse your gyno at one point or the other. So, for the dosing, you have to find out that at what dose it working, with the Testosterone dosing because you’re not going off the Testosterone.
Ashim Matthan: Right.
Kanishka Jain: So, ideally, let’s say that it is one tablet every 3 to 4 days that works for most people. You may be an anomaly and it may be 3 tablets in 7 days that you need to take based on how your gyno is progressing or if your gyno is not improving at all.
Ashim Matthan: Right. So.. we actually deviated a little bit from the topic, but as is this is going to happen. So, back to this gentlemen’s question, The answer is — Proviron is not what we recommend.
Kanishka Jain: Proviron is not going to prevent your gyno.
Ashim Matthan: Yeah. It’s not going to prevent his gyno, it’s not even going to be a good AI nor is it going to be a very good DHT, especially not at that dosage. Like if you’re going to be taking 500 mg of Test a week, then you’re like in the big-boy league. So you should be having big-boy compounds also that are there with you. Proviron is very, very weak. So, you want to take Masteron or you want to take any of the others that are there instead.
Kanishka Jain: Yes.
Ashim Matthan: Okay. And I think this is the answer to the question for the day. Thanks a lot for watching. If you have any questions, please go ahead and ask them. Thank you.
Kanishka Jain: Thank you.